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01/30/2023 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:13 PM Start
03:30:52 PM Presentation(s): 2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast
05:02:23 PM Adjourn
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Presentation: Cook Inlet Gas Update by
John Boyle, Commissioner-Designee, Department
of Natural Resources
John Crowther, Deputy Commissioner, Department
of Natural Resources
Derek Nottingham, Director, DNR Division of Oil
and Gas
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 30, 2023                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Cathy Giessel, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  2022 COOK INLET GAS FORECAST                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner-Designee                                                                                               
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided opening remarks and participated in                                                              
the presentation about the 2022 Cook Inlet gas forecast.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JHONNY MEZA, Commercial Analyst                                                                                                 
Commercial Section                                                                                                              
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the presentation  about the                                                             
2022 Cook Inlet gas forecast.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BURDICK, Petroleum Reservoir Engineer                                                                                      
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the presentation  about the                                                             
2022 Cook Inlet gas forecast.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the presentation  about the                                                             
2022 Cook Inlet gas forecast.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
3:30:13 PM                                                                                                                  
CO-CHAIR  CATHY  GIESSEL  called the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators   Claman,  Dunbar,  Wielechowski,  Kaufman,                                                               
Kawasaki, Co-Chair  Bishop, and Co-Chair Giessel.  She recognized                                                               
that Representative Tom McKay was in the audience.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast                                                                                 
         PRESENTATION(S):  2022 COOK INLET GAS FORECAST                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:30:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR   GIESSEL  announced   the   committee   would  hear   a                                                               
presentation from  the Department of Natural  Resources about the                                                               
2022 Cook Inlet  gas forecast. She reviewed the  course of events                                                               
starting  12   years  ago  when   she  joined  the   Senate.  The                                                               
legislature responded  to the concern about  limited gas supplies                                                               
for  Anchorage  and  the  Interior by  passing  North  Slope  gas                                                               
pipeline legislation and instituting  cash credits to incentivize                                                               
small  producers in  Cook Inlet.  The gas  pipeline has  not been                                                               
built and  the cash credits  were discontinued which  resulted in                                                               
several  companies going  bankrupt.  She  commented that  history                                                               
appeared to be  repeating itself because the  committee was again                                                               
talking  about the  constrained  gas supply  in  Cook Inlet.  She                                                               
invited the presenters to the witness table.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:25 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN   BOYLE,   Commissioner-Designee,  Department   of   Natural                                                               
Resources, Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that it was  a privilege to                                                               
talk about  the status of Cook  Inlet. He said it's  important to                                                               
understand that Cook  Inlet natural gas is a  finite resource and                                                               
that  the  basin has  been  producing  for  more than  60  years.                                                               
Natural  gas from  Cook  Inlet  has been  the  primary source  of                                                               
energy  for Southcentral  for  decades  and it  is  likely to  be                                                               
critical going forward.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE stated that  his team would summarize                                                               
the  history of  activity in  the  basin; the  supply and  demand                                                               
dynamics;  and   the  prior  fiscal  terms   and  incentives  the                                                               
legislature  has   instituted.  He  said  the   current  analysis                                                               
incorporates  certain  assumptions  that   may  change,  but  the                                                               
overall perspective  is that  Cook Inlet  demand will  exceed the                                                               
supply at some point in  the future. Whether supply will increase                                                               
to meet  demand or demand  will decrease  due to trucking  LNG to                                                               
the  Interior  or  increased efficiencies  remains  to  be  seen.                                                               
However, the department does see  the need for policy discussions                                                               
about whether the  current path is sustainable  to provide energy                                                               
to Southcentral into the future.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE   displayed  the  outline   for  the                                                               
presentation and  reported that  in 2022,  the state  offered two                                                               
Cook  Inlet  oil and  gas  lease  sales  and both  currently  are                                                               
producing  natural  gas  for Alaskans  in  the  Railbelt.  Energy                                                               
security  is  a priority  and  the  department  is looking  at  a                                                               
variety of  energy solutions to  ensure that energy  supplies are                                                               
available for  the short, medium,  and long term. There  are also                                                               
alternatives  such  as  LNG  imports,  the  Alaska  LNG  project,                                                               
hydropower,  on-   and  offshore  wind,  tidal   energy,  coalbed                                                               
methane, and geothermal prospects. He  said the situation in Cook                                                               
Inlet  will  require a  lot  of  discussions and  involve  policy                                                               
considerations. The goal  today is to provide a  snapshot in time                                                               
to  show what  the  data  is demonstrating  and  help inform  the                                                               
committee's decision-making going forward.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  listed  the  individuals  who  were  available                                                               
online to provide information and answer questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:09 PM                                                                                                                    
JHONNY MEZA, Commercial Analyst,  Commercial Section, Division of                                                               
Oil and  Gas, Department of  Natural Resources  (DNR), Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, stated that  the purpose today is  to present information                                                               
from the  recently published  2022 Cook  Inlet Gas  Forecast. The                                                               
presentation also would  provide background information regarding                                                               
supply and demand and the geology of Cook Inlet.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:39:36 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN BURDICK,  Petroleum Reservoir Engineer, Division  of Oil and                                                               
Gas,   Department  of   Natural  Resources,   Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                               
displayed slide 3 and explained that  gas in the Cook Inlet basin                                                               
comes  from two  primary sources.  One is  the biogenic  gas from                                                               
coals in  the shallower  strata. The second  comes from  oil that                                                               
migrates from source rocks and creates associated gas.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MEZA displayed  slide 4  and  discussed the  history of  gas                                                               
production from  Cook Inlet fields  since 2001. The graph  on the                                                               
left shows gas  production from only state lands  in the billions                                                               
of  cubic feet  per year.  During this  time, the  producers were                                                               
primarily the  oil and  gas majors. That  changed in  more recent                                                               
years  to independent  oil  and gas  companies  such as  Hilcorp,                                                               
Furie,  Chugach  Electric,  Vision   Resources,  and  Cook  Inlet                                                               
Energy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The graph on  the right shows Cook Inlet gas  production over the                                                               
same timeframe  but from  state, federal,  and private  lands. It                                                               
also  shows that  the  production of  gas has  come  down to  200                                                               
billion  cubic  feet  per  year.  He  said  that's  important  to                                                               
remember  when the  demand  component is  discussed  late in  the                                                               
presentation. He  noted that the  production decline  was stemmed                                                               
in more recent years. This was  due in part to continued drilling                                                               
in the existing  fields, but also the arrival of  new fields such                                                               
as Kitchen Lights, Kenai Loop, and Cosmopolitan.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked what color on the chart represented Beluga.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  said he couldn't  say for sure,  but Beluga is  a major                                                               
contributor to production in the basin.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked  if  anyone   online  could  answer  the                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  CROWTHER,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources,  Anchorage,  Alaska, offered  to  follow  up with  the                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:43:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  whether the  production identified  as MOA                                                               
ML&P on the left chart represented the Beluga gas field.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA confirmed that was correct.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:43:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MEZA displayed slide 5  and explained that the chart provides                                                               
production numbers for 2022. According  to the Alaska Oil and Gas                                                               
Conservation  Commission (AOGCC),  Hilcorp  contributed about  85                                                               
percent of  the gas production  and about  78 percent of  the oil                                                               
production from January through November 2022.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA displayed  slide 6 and pointed out that  the graph shows                                                               
the different components  of demand for Cook Inlet  gas from 2000                                                               
through 2022.  These include commercial use,  electric power, and                                                               
residential  use. It  shows that  over this  time, the  demand by                                                               
category didn't  change very  much. In  recent years,  these user                                                               
groups account for about 80 percent  of the total demand for Cook                                                               
Inlet gas.  He noted that the  graph also reflects the  demand to                                                               
power  oil  and gas  field  operations  in  Cook Inlet.  He  also                                                               
pointed out  that in  the early years  the excess  production was                                                               
used for LNG export from  Kenai and the Nutrien Fertilizer Plant.                                                               
The last  LNG exported from  the Kenai  facility was in  2015 and                                                               
the fertilizer plant ceased operation in 2007.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:46:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MEZA turned  to slide  7 and  explained that  the bar  chart                                                               
shows the development, exploratory,  and stratigraphic wells that                                                               
were drilled from  2005-2022. It also shows the  evolution of the                                                               
production tax in Cook Inlet and the North Slope.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  the  early  part of  the  graph reflects  the                                                               
Economic Limit Factor (ELF) that  assessed tax on gross revenues.                                                               
In 2006,  the state  transitioned to  a new  tax system  that was                                                               
based on net  profits. Importantly, this was also  about the time                                                               
that the  state instituted ceilings for  production tax forecasts                                                               
in Cook  Inlet. In  2010, the legislature  passed the  Cook Inlet                                                               
Recovery  Act  (CIRA),  which allowed  some  credits  related  to                                                               
exploratory   drilling  and   activity,  especially   related  to                                                               
offshore activity and  the buildup of gas  storage facilities. He                                                               
pointed to the  evolution of the number of wells  drilled and how                                                               
the   segment   representing    exploratory   drilling   declined                                                               
significantly. He noted  that a later slide  would illustrate why                                                               
that is important  to maintain the level of production  of gas in                                                               
the  basin. In  2017, House  Bill 247  repealed the  credits that                                                               
hadn't expired, so the only  remaining incentive is the discovery                                                               
royalty which applies to  production from previously undiscovered                                                               
pools or fields in the basin.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN noted  the increase  in  exploratory drilling  in                                                               
2011-2013 that started to tail off  in 2014 and dropped to almost                                                               
nothing after that.  He asked if those  exploration numbers could                                                               
be attributed  to passage of House  Bill 280 and House  Bill 247,                                                               
or ACES and Senate Bill 21.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA said  there was no intention to assign  cause and effect                                                               
to a certain tax system. The  purpose of the graph was to provide                                                               
information  related  to   exploratory  drilling  because  that's                                                               
important to maintain production levels.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked  if the credits or incentives  in House Bill                                                               
280 (CIRA) were also present in ACES.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA answered  that there  were  credits in  the Cook  Inlet                                                               
Recovery Act  that applied to drilling  in Cook Inlet and  on the                                                               
North Slope. ACES had credits that predated CIRA.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER  added that  in 2014-2015,  there was  a significant                                                               
decline in the  price of oil so it was  reasonable to assume that                                                               
those price dynamics challenged any interest in oil exploration.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:50:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  he  was  saying  that  the  tax                                                               
structure had  nothing to  do with the  level of  exploration and                                                               
development in Cook Inlet.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER responded that the  slide indicates that in the pre-                                                               
2014 timeframe, there was true  exploration well activity in Cook                                                               
Inlet. He  said it  was reasonable  to assume that  it had  to do                                                               
with incentives or  corporate objectives, but there  had not been                                                               
that  sustained  level of  exploration  drilling  since the  Cook                                                               
Inlet incentive program ceased.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  what the oil and gas  tax and royalty                                                               
rates were in Cook Inlet.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MEZA  replied the royalty  rates in Cook Inlet  generally are                                                               
12.5  percent and  starting in  2022 the  production tax  in Cook                                                               
Inlet was  35 percent of  the production tax value,  although the                                                               
ceilings he referenced earlier remain active.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if any  tax credits or incentives were                                                               
currently available in Cook Inlet.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  replied  he  was  not aware  of  any,  but  the  slide                                                               
references a  discovery royalty statute  that allows  the royalty                                                               
rate to be reduced by five  percent for a producer that discovers                                                               
a new field or pool.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:52:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked if part of  the reason for the increase in                                                               
exploratory drilling  in 2011-2014 was  due to the high  price of                                                               
oil.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  said it's  fair to  say that  the industry  in Cook                                                               
Inlet, particularly the companies  focused on oil development and                                                               
exploration, are very oil price sensitive.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noted that the  Cook Inlet Recovery  Act passed                                                               
at the lower end  of the price spike. He asked  how much could be                                                               
attributed to the large credits  under CIRA versus just the price                                                               
spike in 2010.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA said  it may be a combination of  factors other than the                                                               
credit.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked how  the price of  Cook Inlet  gas to                                                               
the consumer compares to the price throughout the US.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:55:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER  said the Henry  Hub price has seen  upward pressure                                                               
recently and it's  been more volatile. The average  over the last                                                               
ten years was  about $2/Mcf compared to gas prices  in Cook Inlet                                                               
of  about $6-$7/Mcf.  For a  variety  of reasons,  the Henry  Hub                                                               
price has  gone up  to $3-$4/Mcf and  sometimes a  little higher.                                                               
The  Henry Hub  price is  converging with  Cook Inlet  prices, as                                                               
opposed to the historical norm which was flat and fixed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI recapped the answer  and asked if Cook Inlet                                                               
gas was still in the $6-$7 range.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER replied that was an accurate high-level summary.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if  any other  jurisdiction had  gas                                                               
that was priced as high as Cook Inlet.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.   CROWTHER  offered   his  understanding   that  in   limited                                                               
jurisdictions  in  the northeast  US,  imported  LNG prices  were                                                               
quite high, but  most markets in the Lower 48  were closer to the                                                               
Henry Hub than the Cook Inlet price.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked why there  wasn't more production when                                                               
Cook Inlet prices were the highest in the US.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  replied that  while Cook  Inlet natural  gas prices                                                               
are high,  the demand profile  is relatively limited,  and mostly                                                               
under  contract,  which  makes   it  challenging  to  incent  new                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked how the  internal rate of  return and                                                               
net present  value at Cook  Inlet compare  to Henry Hub  or other                                                               
places in the Lower 48.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA replied that may be confidential information.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI expressed  frustration  about  the lack  of                                                               
analysis when  Alaska was  the resource  owner and  the producers                                                               
were under lease obligation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  said DNR  believes that  the producers  are largely                                                               
fulfilling  their  development  obligations  for  their  existing                                                               
fields.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  what   sort  of  policy  tools  the                                                               
legislature had  at its  disposal to get  more production  out of                                                               
Cook Inlet.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:00:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE  said it was beyond  DNR's ability to                                                               
predict  what causes  one company  to move  forward with  greater                                                               
activity, but  the department  was hearing  from some  Cook Inlet                                                               
operators   about   external   constraints.  For   example,   the                                                               
environmental,  social, and  governance  (ESG)  policies of  some                                                               
major  lending institutions  consider  Cook Inlet  to be  Arctic.                                                               
This  limits  access  to outside  capital  and  constrains  these                                                               
companies from moving forward on  some promising developments. If                                                               
this were resolved, it could lead to increased production.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked if it was  true that natural gas prices go                                                               
up  when  the weather  is  extremely  cold  because some  of  the                                                               
additional  supply  is drawn  from  the  Cook Inlet  Natural  Gas                                                               
Storage Alaska (CINGSA) facility and that gas is more expensive.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER offered  his understanding  that  there were  sales                                                               
from both CINGSA  that requires the payment of  the storage costs                                                               
in addition  to the production  costs, and the  utility contracts                                                               
that  have different  costs  associated with  high  demand for  a                                                               
short term.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:05:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked who owns CINGSA.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  answered that a group  of companies own CINGSA  and one                                                               
is related to ENSTAR.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked  if he was saying that  some CINGSA owners                                                               
were also producers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA said he would follow up with an answer.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  said he'd  also  like  to  know if  they  take                                                               
advantage  of the  gas storage  credit that  are attached  to the                                                               
program under the Cook Inlet Recovery Act.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER said he would follow up and provide an answer.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked how many  companies participated in the 2022                                                               
gas sales.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  explained that  the state  held its  regular spring                                                               
lease sale  and another  in December. There  was also  a mandated                                                               
federal lease  sale in the  federal Outer Continental  Shelf area                                                               
of the  southern Cook Inlet. In  the earlier lease sale,  Hex got                                                               
two leases adjacent  to its existing operations.  In the December                                                               
state lease  sale, Hilcorp acquired  five leases adjacent  to its                                                               
existing  lease holdings,  some  of which  are under  production.                                                               
Hilcorp  also added  one federal  lease to  its existing  federal                                                               
lease position in the federal Outer Continental Shelf.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked if there  would have been more participation                                                               
if more leases were offered.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER   said  it's  difficult  to   speculate  about  the                                                               
decisions that  companies might  make, but DNR  was happy  to see                                                               
the  commitment from  the existing  leaseholders. The  department                                                               
would like  to have  seen interest from  new companies,  but that                                                               
did not happen.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:08:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI observed that  the situation had not changed                                                               
since  it  was   discussed  10-15  years  ago   even  though  the                                                               
legislature  had  tried  a  variety  of  things,  including  $1.5                                                               
billion  in tax  breaks  over the  years that  only  worked to  a                                                               
degree. He  wondered whether DNR  had additional levers  it could                                                               
use to get more gas to the consumers.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER suggested  that one distinction between  now and ten                                                               
years  ago was  that the  current  operators in  Cook Inlet  have                                                               
indicated  that they  do not  anticipate automatically  extending                                                               
their existing  contracts as they  have in several  recent years.                                                               
This is  an indication of  some market dynamic other  than purely                                                               
cost that is  affecting their decisions. One dynamic  is that the                                                               
basin is advanced  in years and is contributing  a smaller amount                                                               
of supply.  He cited  the Beluga  River field  as an  example and                                                               
noted that there was more about that later in the presentation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
To the  question about what the  department can do, he  cited the                                                               
discovery  royalty provision  for new  discoveries that  Mr. Meza                                                               
mentioned, and  working to  improve the  financial attractiveness                                                               
of projects  in the  Cook Inlet  environment as  the commissioner                                                               
mentioned. He  said the  department would be  happy to  engage in                                                               
other  policy  discussions with  the  committee  related to  Cook                                                               
Inlet   production.   DNR    sees   significant   potential   but                                                               
acknowledges that it's a complex and unique market.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked what  the annual investment  would be                                                               
to ensure an adequate supply of gas for consumers and utilities.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  said he  wouldn't suggest a  dollar figure,  but an                                                               
assumption  in  the  department's   forecast  was  for  about  15                                                               
development wells per year for  Cook Inlet to continue to produce                                                               
the existing reserves into the market and meet demand.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for the  ballpark cost of  drilling a                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE  replied  it   depends  in  part  on                                                               
whether the  well uses an  existing platform  and infrastructure.                                                               
For  a new  platform the  estimates  range from  $200 million  to                                                               
about $0.5 billion and estimates  for an exploration well from an                                                               
existing platform are still in  the multimillion dollar range. He                                                               
added  that oil  production helps  underpin or  even support  gas                                                               
production in  Cook Inlet.  The margins for  oil are  higher than                                                               
for  gas,  so the  harder  it  is to  find  new  oil deposits  in                                                               
commercial quantities, the more the  supply of gas is constrained                                                               
because the  supplies of gas  that are brought  online oftentimes                                                               
are associated with a new oil discovery.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  noted  that   BlueCrest  Energy  said  it  had                                                               
significant  gas  offshore  but   to  produce  it  would  require                                                               
significant investment  for an offshore platform,  which would be                                                               
prohibitively expensive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MEZA  advanced to slide 8  which emphasizes the need  for new                                                               
wells to  maintain the gas  supply for  the basin. The  bar chart                                                               
provides data  points for  2005, 2010,  and 2021  that illustrate                                                               
that  wells  drilled  in  Cook   Inlet  pre-2000  have  declining                                                               
production,  but when  new wells  are drilled  they maintain  the                                                               
level of production in the basin.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BURDICK paraphrased  the bullet  points on  slides 9  and 10                                                               
that read as follows:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    2009   -   Preliminary   Engineering   and   Geological                                                                 
     Evaluation of Remaining Cook Inlet Gas Reserves                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        â?¢ Consisted of engineering and geologic evaluations                                                                   
          of 28  currently producing  Cook Inlet  gas fields                                                                    
          to  derive  estimates   of  remaining  Proved  and                                                                    
          Probable reserves.                                                                                                    
        â?¢ Applied single   deterministic   Decline   Curve                                                                    
          Analysis   (DCA)  and   Material  Balance   (MBAL)                                                                    
          engineering   methods    to   publicly   available                                                                    
          production and pressure  data obtained from Alaska                                                                    
          Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC).                                                                          
        â?¢ Did not address economics of drilling additional                                                                    
          wells,  recompleting  existing  wells,  optimizing                                                                    
          infrastructure, and  the ability  to sell  the gas                                                                    
          into the Cook Inlet market.                                                                                           
        â?¢ Proved + Probable reserves estimated at 1.14                                                                        
          trillion cubic feet (Tcf).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     2011 - Cook Inlet Natural Gas Production Cost Study                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        â?¢ Investigated investment    requirements   around                                                                    
          various targeted reserves.                                                                                            
        â?¢ Addressed commercial viability of remaining gas                                                                     
          by   postulating  conceptual   plans  to   produce                                                                    
          natural gas  from the Cook  Inlet Basin to  meet a                                                                    
          demand of 90 billion cubic feet (bcf) per year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       2015 - Updated Engineering Evaluation of Remaining                                                                   
     Cook Inlet Gas Reserves                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        â?¢ An update to 2009's study of 34 currently or                                                                        
          historically  producing Cook  Inlet gas  fields to                                                                    
          derive estimates of  remaining Proved and Probable                                                                    
          reserves.                                                                                                             
        â?¢ Applied single deterministic DCA and MBAL                                                                           
          engineering   methods    to   publicly   available                                                                    
          production and pressure data obtained from AOGCC.                                                                     
        â?¢ Did not address prospective (undiscovered),                                                                         
          contingent  (discovered,  non-producing),  and  3P                                                                    
          (Proved + Probable + Possible) reserves.                                                                              
        â?¢ Proved + Probable reserves estimated at 1.18                                                                        
          trillion cubic feet (Tcf).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     2018 - Cook Inlet Natural Gas Availability                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        â?¢ Built on three previous DOG Cook Inlet gas                                                                          
          studies,  while incorporating  future supplies  by                                                                    
          formulating   hypothetical  development   projects                                                                    
          required  to   produce  undeveloped   volumes  and                                                                    
          estimate each project's economic viability.                                                                           
          â?¢ 500800 bcf  of additional  gas is  economic to                                                                    
             develop at a price range around $6-8/thousand                                                                      
             cubic feet (real 2016 dollars).                                                                                    
        â?¢ P50 reserves estimate of 700 bcf when price is $8                                                                   
          per thousand cubic feet (mcf).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  asked how  many  years  the production  of  700                                                               
bcf/year was estimated to last.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  answered that  the study concluded  that 2028  would be                                                               
the last year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  referenced the third  bullet in the  2015 study                                                               
and asked for the definition of "Proved + Probable + Possible."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BURDICK  explained   that  those   are  industry-recognized                                                               
categories for  a commercially available resource  in a petroleum                                                               
resources  management system.  Proved  + Probable  + Possible  is                                                               
much  more  certain  than contingent  or  prospective  resources.                                                               
Proved  has  90 percent  certainty  with  the particular  volume;                                                               
adding  Probable  to  Proved  has a  50  percent  certainty;  and                                                               
Possible  +  Probable  +  Proved  has  a  10  percent  certainty.                                                               
Methodology applications are what distinguish each category.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked  if  the  [Proved  +  Probable  reserves                                                               
estimated at 1.18/Tcf]  was based on the net price  of gas at the                                                               
wellhead. He confirmed he was referring to the 2015 study.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURDICK  explained that it  was a  technically-based forecast                                                               
that had no economic factors.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked if he could  place the 1.2 Tcf  of reserves                                                               
in  the context  of and  comparison  to the  700 bcf  at a  price                                                               
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURDICK explained  that what demarcates both  studies is that                                                               
there is no  cost factor for the  2015 study and there  is a cost                                                               
associated with the 2018 study.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  observed that  the  1.2  Tcf suggests  it's  the                                                               
volume in  the reserve  that has not  been produced,  whereas the                                                               
700  bcf  suggests  the  volume  at  $8  per  thousand  would  be                                                               
economically recoverable. Together,  the 1.2 Tcf and  the 700 bcf                                                               
would be  the volume of  gas that at  $8/Mcf is too  expensive to                                                               
extract.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:24:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK said that's a fair assessment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  referenced the 2011  study that  estimated demand                                                               
of 90 bcf/year and the estimate  in 2022 of 70 bcf/year. He asked                                                               
if the  difference could be attributed  to the fact that  LNG was                                                               
no longer exported from the Kenai facility.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  answered that  two  things  primarily changed  the                                                               
demand  profile. One  was Agrium  no longer  producing fertilizer                                                               
for export and second was  that consumer and utility efficiencies                                                               
increased from 2015 to 2022.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR referenced the 2018  study that estimated reserves                                                               
of 700 bcf at  $8/Mcf and asked if it was fair  to say that there                                                               
was 10 years of economically recoverable gas.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER called it a fair extrapolation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:25:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK paraphrased the following bullet points on slide 11:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        â?¢ A technical reserves assessment of 90 different                                                                     
          gas  & oil  pools in  the Cook  Inlet Basin  using                                                                    
          publicly available  production data  obtained from                                                                    
          AOGCC.                                                                                                                
        â?¢ Decline Curve Analysis (DCA) used to estimate                                                                       
          volumes  from currently  producing well  set. Type                                                                    
          Curve(s) were  developed to estimate  volumes from                                                                    
          future development wells.                                                                                             
        â?¢ Discovered resources    contingent   upon   more                                                                    
          favorable  commercial conditions  and undiscovered                                                                    
          (prospective) resources  were not included  in the                                                                    
          forecast.                                                                                                             
        â?¢ Estimated field level economic limits were used                                                                     
          in the "truncated" forecast cases.                                                                                    
        â?¢ Forecasted volumes do not account for gas                                                                           
          produced  from gas  storage  to avoid  duplicative                                                                    
          gas volumes produced.                                                                                                 
        â?¢ Flat gas demand of 70 billion cubic feet per year                                                                   
          does  not  assume future  additional  requirements                                                                    
          nor  does   it  assume  possible   substitutes  or                                                                    
          increasing  efficiency  in  consumption  both  for                                                                    
          energy  producers   and  commercial   or  domestic                                                                    
          consumers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:27:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI questioned  the  reason the  study did  not                                                               
include the  20 Tcf of undiscovered,  technically recoverable gas                                                               
the US Geological Survey (USGS) has said exists.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER replied the intent of  the study was to focus on the                                                               
reserves and resources in existing  fields, both under production                                                               
and  expected  to  be  develop   with  the  consistent  level  of                                                               
activity.  There was  no intention  to forecast  when and  how an                                                               
undeveloped known  resource would be brought  into production, or                                                               
to  attribute exploration  success to  the undiscovered  category                                                               
that the USGS says is abundant in Cook Inlet.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if the  USGS estimate how accurate and                                                               
what it considered technically recoverable.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  explained  that USGS  does  undiscovered  resource                                                               
assessments  in Alaska  and  worldwide.  They are  extrapolations                                                               
based on  representative assumptions about the  particular basin,                                                               
including  historical  well  activity, exploration  success,  the                                                               
scope of  pools in the context  of the geologic structure  of the                                                               
particular basis,  and the statistical extrapolation  thereof. He                                                               
said  it's fair  to say  those assessments  are meant  to provide                                                               
tranches  of what  could  be in  a  basis at  a  very high  level                                                               
without  any  economic  screens. Although  economic  screens  are                                                               
applied at times to obtain a  high level assessment of what could                                                               
be there to compare one basin or one jurisdiction to another.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  commented  that  economically  recoverable  was                                                               
where the rubber meets the road.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:31:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK  advanced to the bar  chart on slide 12  and conveyed                                                               
that the chart  illustrates that approximately 15  wells per year                                                               
were drilled in the 2009-2019 pre-pandemic years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked if the projection for 2023 was 15 wells.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURDICK  confirmed that for  2023, 15 development  wells were                                                               
factored into the forecast.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:32:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MEZA stated  that slide  13  provides a  little more  detail                                                               
about how the current study  considered a technically recoverable                                                               
gas resource, by  applying an economic limit test  to the decline                                                               
curve analysis  and type well  curve analysis.  Essentially, this                                                               
compared  the marginal  revenue associated  with production  in a                                                               
given  month  to the  marginal  expenditure  associated with  the                                                               
production of that volume.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  exercise  was to  demonstrate  that  upstream companies  are                                                               
unlikely  to operate  their fields  at a  sustained loss.  Once a                                                               
company  reaches  the point  that  it  can  no longer  cover  its                                                               
marginal  expenditures  with  their marginal  revenues,  it  will                                                               
probably consider  shutting down  the field.  At that  point, the                                                               
technically recoverable forecast would  no longer be available to                                                               
the market.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The  analysis  considered  the technically  recoverable  forecast                                                               
from each of the fields and  an approximation of gas prices using                                                               
the  publicly  available  information  between  some  Cook  Inlet                                                               
producers  and local  utilities.  For  cost, a  one-size-fits-all                                                               
approach was  followed using a  benchmark of the cost  to produce                                                               
the  fields,   while  allowing  for  differences   based  on  the                                                               
proximity of those fields to  infrastructure. Comparing fields on                                                               
the western side  to those on the eastern  side demonstrated that                                                               
offshore fields tend  to have a higher cost  than onshore fields.                                                               
The exercise  also considered  the royalty  rate of  12.5 percent                                                               
and the tax  structure related to production tax and  the oil and                                                               
gas property tax.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI referenced  the  information  on the  chart                                                               
about  taxes  and  asked  for   an  explanation  of  "$1/bbl  and                                                               
$0.177/Mcf ceilings."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:35:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MEZA replied  those are the ceilings  referenced earlier that                                                               
are applicable to taxable production  from Cook Inlet. It follows                                                               
the same  net profits  structure as  for the  North Slope  but is                                                               
subject to the values that appear on the slide.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI recalled that he  said the tax rates were 35                                                               
percent, which would be less than one percent at $1/bbl.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA confirmed that he said  that the tax rates were based on                                                               
35 percent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  offered his  understanding that  the tax  rate on                                                               
gas coming out of  Cook Inlet was so low it could  not be used as                                                               
a lever to incentivize more production.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA responded  that  the  tax rate  is  35  percent of  the                                                               
production  tax  value,  which is  taxable  revenue  minus  lease                                                               
expenditures.  However, the  calculation  of taxable  obligations                                                               
from these fields also includes the  values for oil of $1/bbl and                                                               
a ceiling of $0.177/Mcf.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if  the $0.177/Mcf  ceiling was  applied to                                                               
$8/Mcf or some other value.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA replied  the $8 is part of the  taxable revenue and then                                                               
the  lease   expenditures  are  deducted.  The   result  of  that                                                               
calculation is compared to the $0.177/Mcf ceiling.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER  added  that  the   calculation  is  revenue  minus                                                               
expenditures  multiplied  by the  tax  rate.  If that  number  is                                                               
higher than the ceiling, it would be reduced to the ceiling.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if  that calculation  was currently  at the                                                               
ceiling.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA  replied  he  didn't   have  the  information  for  the                                                               
particular taxpayers, but  the law provides for  that ceiling. He                                                               
offered  to follow  up with  the Department  of Revenue  (DOR) to                                                               
find out whether they had specific information about taxpayers.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if the  state was  getting the  full                                                               
12.5 percent on all the fields in  Cook Inlet or if the state was                                                               
providing royalty relief on some fields.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  replied the  Kitchen Lights  unit enjoys  the discovery                                                               
royalty provision for 10 years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN  observed that the  35 percent tax rate  seemed to                                                               
be  largely  irrelevant  in  the  calculation  about  whether  to                                                               
produce because  the $1/bbl ceiling  had a greater  impact unless                                                               
the company was making almost no money on the field.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  acknowledged that  DNR needed to  meet with  DOR to                                                               
get the  most accurate  information for  the committee  about how                                                               
the tax is currently applied.  To Senator Dunbar's question about                                                               
the application  of the  tax cap  to the  oil and  gas production                                                               
tax,  he  explained  that  Cook Inlet  operators  were  not  only                                                               
obligated to make  Cook Inlet tax payments but  also property tax                                                               
and corporate  income tax payments.  He opined that  depending on                                                               
the size of  those fiscal assessments, any of  those levers could                                                               
be relevant to operators' commercial decisions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  pointed out that  the majority of  the Cook                                                               
Inlet producers do not pay any corporate income tax.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER responded  that he wasn't speaking to  the status of                                                               
the  different  taxpayers  in Cook  Inlet,  just  that  corporate                                                               
income tax was associated with activity in Cook Inlet.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for confirmation that  S corporations                                                               
pay no corporate income taxes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  said he was  not a  tax professional, but  that was                                                               
his understanding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked whether  companies producing  in Cook                                                               
Inlet  were  able  to  write  off  their  costs  associated  with                                                               
exploration, production,  and development  in Prudhoe Bay,  or if                                                               
they were fenced off.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER replied he would confer  with DOR and follow up with                                                               
the information.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:42:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  noted that the  $1/bbl and  $0.177/Mcf ceilings                                                               
were passed  in about 2016,  but she didn't recall  whether there                                                               
was  any fencing.  She  said  the question  of  incentives is  an                                                               
important one.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR commented that the  Department of Revenue probably                                                               
should  be  present  for all  the  discussions  about  economical                                                               
reserves and whether  the collection of tax  revenues impacts the                                                               
decision about whether the reserves are recoverable.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:44:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BURDICK  stated that  slide  14  reflects a  technical  base                                                               
forecast for  the high, mid,  low, and  mean cases for  total gas                                                               
reserves  from 2010  to 2041.  He explained  that an  untruncated                                                               
forecast means that economics are  not factored. The forecast for                                                               
the high case  was for about 1.4  Tcf and the low  case was about                                                               
843  bcf. The  mean  case  forecast for  total  gas reserves  was                                                               
approximately 1.1 Tcf.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK  displayed the chart  on slide 15 and  explained that                                                               
this   truncated  forecast   incorporates   economics  into   the                                                               
technical forecast.  The high case is  about 1.1 Tcf and  the low                                                               
case  is about  603  bcf. The  mean case  forecast  of total  gas                                                               
reserve was about 820 bcf.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:45:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MEZA pointed out that the  middle part of the graph shows the                                                               
impact  of the  economic  limitations. It  reflects  the pace  of                                                               
drilling  and that,  according to  the assumptions,  some of  the                                                               
fields may reach  the end of their economic  life, which affected                                                               
the production for the whole basin                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  what internal  rate of  return (IRR)                                                               
was assumed on the truncated forecast.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA replied  that future  investments  were not  evaluated.                                                               
Primarily, the ongoing  costs of production were  compared to the                                                               
marginal revenue associated with that production.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if the  truncated forecast assumed the                                                               
companies would make a profit.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA replied  that  the production  reflected  in the  graph                                                               
means that  the marginal  revenues are  higher than  the marginal                                                               
expenditures. Therefore,  there is  a marginal  profit associated                                                               
with that production.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if he was saying  that the assumption                                                               
was  that  the company  would  move  forward  even if  there  was                                                               
virtually no profit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA said yes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if it  wasn't necessary to  factor in                                                               
some return for the company.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MEZA clarified  that the  scenario that  the slide  seeks to                                                               
present  is one  where companies  have to  make a  decision about                                                               
whether to continue production when  a field returns no profit at                                                               
all.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE  added   that  the  illustration  is                                                               
simplified to avoid the problem  associated with trying to target                                                               
IRRs, because a  return that's sufficient for one  company may be                                                               
completely insufficient for another.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  the  forecast  considered  that                                                               
companies would  write off their  expenses in Cook  Inlet against                                                               
their profits in Prudhoe Bay.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE  said he would  defer to  DOR because                                                               
he didn't know  whether that was an option  for companies working                                                               
in Cook Inlet.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK  explained that slide  16 was  a zoomed in  view with                                                               
data incorporated into the forecast.  The dashed green line shows                                                               
the actual  volumes of gas, which  fall between the high  and low                                                               
case. He said  there is high certainty that the  actual data will                                                               
fall in  the band  between the  high and  low cases.  There's low                                                               
probability of any  production above the high case  or below [the                                                               
low case].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK  stated that  slide 16 showed  a rate-based  plot and                                                               
slide  17 looks  solely  at volume  on an  annual  basis with  no                                                               
economics  factored  into the  forecast.  The  demand profile  is                                                               
overlayed as a benchmark for technically recoverable reserves.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:50:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked whether the  assumptions were based on the                                                               
current contracts.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA  replied the pricing  information in the  current multi-                                                               
year contracts was used.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked if most  of those contracts were 4-6 years                                                               
old.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MEZA answered yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK stated  that slide 18 reflects  the truncated version                                                               
of the forecast of annualized gas  volume by year. He pointed out                                                               
that looking  at the  assumed demand  profile compared  to supply                                                               
highlights the impact of factoring economics into the forecast.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BURDICK explained  that  slide 19  is  the same  untruncated                                                               
scenario, but it  focuses on the mean case, broken  out by proved                                                               
developed, and incremental proved undeveloped.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURDICK  advanced   to  slide  20  and   explained  that  it                                                               
illustrates the  truncated view of  the previous slide.  It shows                                                               
the impact of factoring in  the economics, but it primarily shows                                                               
the  impact on  proved undeveloped  volumes. That  speaks to  the                                                               
assumption of drilling 15 development wells per year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:53:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR offered  his perspective  that slides  17-20 were                                                               
the heart  of the  presentation. They  offer DNR's  estimate that                                                               
sometime between  2027 and 2030,  the Cook Inlet gas  supply will                                                               
be insufficient to meet the demand.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER said the assumptions  in the study could change, but                                                               
it was fair to  say that the status quo would  be affected in the                                                               
2027 to 2029 timeframe.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN   summarized  that  the  forecast   on  slide  20                                                               
illustrates that  the three  main factors  that could  change the                                                               
graph  over  time  and  avoid  the  challenge  in  the  2027-2030                                                               
timeframe  would be  a  change  in price  dynamics,  a change  in                                                               
legislative dynamics,  or a change  in the economic model  due to                                                               
the discovery of new fields.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER said that's a good summation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:55:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURDICK  stated that  slide 21 provides  a comparison  of the                                                               
four studies that the Division of  Oil and Gas released. The gray                                                               
bars reflect the  cumulative gas volumes produced at  the time of                                                               
the study and the red  bars reflect the total estimated reserves.                                                               
The   takeaway  is   that  each   study  incorporated   different                                                               
methodologies and different  scopes of work. This  study showed a                                                               
cumulative volume  of 820  bcf and roughly  9.7 Tcf  of estimated                                                               
ultimate recovery.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:56:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BURDICK displayed  slide 22  that  talks about  undiscovered                                                               
resources in the Cook Inlet basin.  The first of two 2011 studies                                                               
was by the US Geological  Survey (USGS). The agency estimated the                                                               
total  volume  of  mean   conventional  and  mean  unconventional                                                               
technically recoverable oil and gas resource to be 19 (Tcf).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  second study,  which was  conducted by  BOEM, estimated  the                                                               
technically recoverable undiscovered gas  resource to be 1.2 Tcf.                                                               
The assessment was  in the southern Cook  Inlet Outer Continental                                                               
Shelf (OCS).                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE cautioned  that  as fewer  companies                                                               
are operating  in Cook  Inlet, it was  important to  maintain the                                                               
health of  support services  in the area  or the  exploration and                                                               
development  companies would  be  constrained  in how  aggressive                                                               
they  could be  during the  exploration season.  Trying to  bring                                                               
support services  up from  the Lower  48 or  down from  the North                                                               
Slope would increase costs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  expressed  appreciation  that  he  raised  the                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he appreciated  the discussion  but it                                                               
was the same  as the last 15  years. He commented on  the lack of                                                               
available levers  and advocated for  thinking outside the  box to                                                               
look for  solutions, perhaps  by working  with the  utilities and                                                               
Native  corporations  so  they   could  produce  the  fields.  He                                                               
emphasized that without a solution, consumers would suffer.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL advised  that the committee would  hear from the                                                               
utilities  on Wednesday  and perhaps  DOR would  be available  to                                                               
respond to  the questions that  came up during this  meeting. She                                                               
added that she was interested in inviting some Cook Inlet                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:02:23 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Co-Chair Giessel adjourned the Senate Resources Standing                                                                        
Committee meeting at 5:02 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast Report.pdf SRES 1/30/2023 3:30:00 PM
2023 01 30 SRES DNR-DOG 2022 Cook Inlet Gas Forecast Presentation v.2.pdf SRES 1/30/2023 3:30:00 PM